Am I doing something wrong?

Sir' keep believin' that fairytales about romance lmao. I'll be willin' to see who's goin' to the wrong path at the end lmao

I think you misunderstand my point at all. All im sayin' is there's nothing called '' love '' anymore. Maybe there even wasn't! Peoples might be believin' that kind of thing to make it sacrosanct. Also why tf are you actin' like females are such weak creatures who cannot even make decisions for themself. You're bringin' the subject up like im gonna offer them marriage & steal their virginity than pass lmao. Only poor choices there is available is that peoples are marrying for sex than breakin' up after two goddamn years because they find eachother boring. That's what i'd call '' Poor choice ''.

If i'm allowed to join, @Sxfe, i can understand your point, but i feel like most of the People dont understand that love isnt just love. Everyone has a different View on that. I think you're trying to refer to what Media is trying to let us see what love looks like. Vargas isnt wrong. "You're bringin' the subject up like im gonna offer them marriage & steal their virginity than pass lmao" i think he got it that way, because you literally said "Kindly have your stuff & pass to next one." I kind of understood it that way aswell. I think its kinda stupid to go into such conversations when nobody is stating what love for them actually is and what they're expecting. "Fucking a girl is a scary thing, they can become very attached and dependent on you, same can be said about guys as well." "Also why tf are you actin' like females are such weak creatures who cannot even make decisions for themself." Well, maybe i sound stupid, but woman are different? Being a attached female being doesnt mean that they are automatically weak creatures. We have expectations dude, those are higher than you can imagine. I cant comment on that "after sex" part, but from what i think every woman would at least be a bit dependent on the other person, esspecially if they have real feelings for them. Like i said, woman are different though, so they also can immediately leave without caring, while saying "smol pp weeb, i'm going back to Ricardo". It's just hard to discuss such things, without the opinions from everyone involved. "Only poor choices there is available is that peoples are marrying for sex than breakin' up after two goddamn years because they find eachother boring. That's what i'd call '' Poor choice ''." I see where thats coming from, but literally noone except you spoke about marriage here. I cant speak for America, but i mostly see such cases in Turkey, because of Religous backgrounds. And well, they do put Religion mostly over themself, thats Amca Yusuf's and Teyze Fatma's fault. Basically everywhere, most of the people dont care about their Virginity anymore. Germanys here be like Blow your load and hit the road It sadly became normality here. Conclusion: Woman are shitty, Men are shitty, Good guys mostly cant find good girls because girls actually doesnt exist and only Ricardo is for ever. We live in a Society.

@yuzuri Thanks for advanced reply. I'm aware that many people don't care about virginity. This discussion between me and him has its own backstory which is very much detailed so i might don't want to go in aswell. He just givin' me kind of vibe that only one stereotype would. There was a reason that i put '' kindly '' there which can be taken from both sides as you said before. He always take it there & claims that the only truth is whatever he says. I was referring to vargas about it, when it comes to '' weak creatures ''. If im not wrong you misunderstand it either since you said '' We have expectations dude, those are higher than you can imagine. '' which should be directly said to vargas not me. Trust me im not a single kissless virgin who's unexperienced enough to talk about it. Well, im not against to commiting either as if you remember i said that it'd end up breakin' up after two years. Womans are so picky due to there are sausage fest goin' on that is very much true. '' I see where thats coming from, but literally noone except you spoke about marriage here. '' has a backstory between me and vargas. We talked about it for a very long time so i know what he's referring to. You can assume that from '' DON'T LISTEN TO THIS GUY' ''. I mean '' love '' has to be dead in our century when there's literally sociological problems between males and females. After lots of things i said i confirm your point at the conclusion part. Just do whatever you like. No one is gonna come to us and judge us from nowhere. As a degenerate i'd like to say i don't really go along with society anyways. So who are they to judge you & me? Best regards.

> second date has someone use you to make an ex jealous. Ah yes, this here is what we call irredeemable trash.