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hell_hound7
I dont mind people advocating for equality. I absolutely support equality. Just a rainbow on the street what does that actually accomplish? Why is that a thing? Its like telling people you are a vegan when no one asked you. Seems kinda pointless.
hell_hound7
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xinmage
Jul 29, 21 at 5:11pm
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Panda dissing Rainbow Road over here!
hell_hound7
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umi_nezumi
Jul 29, 21 at 5:43pm
The problem I always have with discussions on equality is that they often only focus on what the man has that the woman does not. Women do receive special treatment that is not afforded to men. It makes them come off as only wanting to have our toys without sharing their own. This breeds frustration and resentment. Sure, when you're in a serious relationship you're batting for both teams so it's hard to loose. If you are not it just looks like you're being scammed. A few non-subjective examples: * Opportunity to receive scholarships. * Amount of time off for having a kid. * Generally more safety nets that provide security and stability. EDIT: I should add I do support the notion of equality. I just don't think that's what's actually occurring.
hell_hound7
Child support and custody is the biggest issue i feel in the family structure. Where its damn near impossible for men who legitimately want to be part of their kid's life arent given that chance. A man can also be put on child support for a kid that isnt biologically his.
umi_nezumi
Jul 29, 21 at 6:15pm
The teamwork dynamic has been highlighted here. I'm not trying to discredit the value of that, but the individual perspective does very much matter as well. Imagine telling a woman that equality does not matter because they can just exercise those powers in their teamwork dynamic with their spouse. Enjoy the new title such a line would get you. Yet, that's effectively the phrasing society uses to shoot down expressions of male discontent: "well, your spouse is benefiting therefore you are, you should be happy", "man up", etc. This is the more subjective and harder to quantify aspect of inequality in favor of women.
umi_nezumi
Jul 29, 21 at 6:19pm
@hell_hound7 Is the logic that the woman became dependent on the man and thus he has a duty to continue serving for their needs, which includes the child? That kind of makes sense to me, at least for a limited amount of time. It would need to be applied symmetrically.
hell_hound7
Nah idk man child support kinda fucks people over. Especially people who go on to have another family. While yes its your obligation to take care of your child, if you impregnate someone and say you dont want the child and they still have it you are obligated to pay child support. But if you want the kid they can just kill it without consequence
verucassault
I've worked with men before who have taken paternity leave. (just sayin....) And also to the comment above, you're comparing a fiscal responsibility to something more akin to morals. There's ALWAYS a chance of pregnancy when you have sex with someone. This is something that should be considered before entering into that physical limbo. "What happens if WE <(because it takes 2) get pregnant?, Am I ready to be a father? Is she ready to be a mother? Would I even want a child right now? Would I be willing to support this child financially even if the mother and I don't end up together?" That's what adulting in a perfect world would look like. If any of those answers are "no", then you should start shopping for inanimate options.
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