2020 US Presidential Election

yeah thats what dems and republicans have in common, their both heavily establishment and cater to lobiests and corporations instead of what the people actually want/need people who say trump is anti-establishment though have no idea what their talking about and couldn't name a single person in his cabinet

The only thing Trump might be anti establishment would be in ending the endless wars. I'll give give props for that. I say might, because Trump changes his opinion all the time. Apart from that. Trump pretty much tows the Republican party line on most everything else. Yeah so much for anti establishment.

Plus the conspiracy theories that Trump pumps out from time to time. But I wouldn't really call that anti establishment. I would call that sipping gay frog juice.

https://youtu.be/9JRLCBb7qK8 "TURNING FREAKING FROGS GAY!! DO YOU UN DERS TAND THAT!?"

i do criticize dems for the war thing its always 'we need to get out of the middle east!' and when trump is pulling SOME troops (its a very slow process) they freak out and talk about how we need to stay to help our allies and russia gaining control in that regain now the latter is true, we are abandoning a country that got into this war to help us and are leaving the region vulnerable to Russian influence, that is 100% true, but they absolutely are hypocritical to be crying this NOW i could be wrong in this take, dems might have been saying to stay pre trump, but obama ran on getting out of the middle east and never did so, and continued that war, but from what i remember, though a bit foggy, it seemed mostly dems saying to get out of there now we should not leave that area, we should not abandon our allies and leave it open to Russian influence, so orangeman still bad, but rhetorically hypocrisy is there on the dems side

i would say that establishment has nothing to do with foreign affairs, and instead trump getting out of the middle east is isolationist, not anti-establishment the military budget is still bloated af and hes only adding onto it, which is 100% an establishment thing to do