Dyadka Yar

@willworkforisekai I am just glad to hear you are doing a lot better. If it is of any comfort, I honestly don't think anyone here holds it against you. I know I don't.

@chocopyro Now we are really getting some common ground here. Once again we have different methods and I can see the merit of yours. My main issue with the FDR method is that it should not be on a federal level, but a state level. Mostly because when it comes to government corruption it is limited to individual pockets rather than ruining millions of people across the entire country. While it would be ideal that government corruption would be eradicated, but we know better. My main counter to the point that progressive leftist movement is not co-opted by bad actors and devilish characters is Hasan Piker. Now granted he has fallen quite a bit in viewership, but when he is one of the most viewed leftists in alternative media then we have a bunch of mini Hasan Pikers running around then that is indicating a rot in the political movement. To me your FDR reconstructionist view is perfectly reasonable. However on a wider scale I feel that the same theing happened to your position that did to mine during the Bush era. The more reasonable members of conservatism were replaced by authoritarian elements that were abusing the system and movement as a power grab. To me, the same thing has happened to the progressive leftist movement. As far as MKUltra goes. I suspect that the experiments are still going on, or at the very least a spiritual successor. Namely the one with the DMT drips that are supposedly being used to map out the DMT realm. When it comes to ideological subversion, we are dealing with a three headed monster between Russia, China and our own nation. The process of demoralization is complete as nobody can come to agreement as to what is good, bad or any sort of compromise. Destabilization is going to be real ugly of which I suspect we are in the beginning stages of right now. The main reason I suspect QAnon being an internal plot is that it delegitimizes all within the group, namely the opposition to the current power structure. It begs the question. How can you take the opposition seriously when they speak utter nonsense? The only thing I remember was one story that Donald Trump was going to return to the presidency a month or two after the official ascension to the office of Joe Biden which made no legal sense whatsoever. So the only people profiting from this are the ones who are currently in the established power structure. Now when it comes to 4Chan, it has the ability to change culture on a small scale. If people think that Donald Trump won in 2016 due to a meme frog it is a bit outrageous. Did they help? Oh absolutely, but not to the extent that the election would have been lost without them. One thing to keep in mind is that the average age demographic of 4chan is primarily Millennials and that demographic didn't do too much for Trump in that election. On a microcosmic scale, 4Chan is a terrifying force. On a macrocosmic scale they are extremely limited as to their abilities.